Hope this video has not been taken down by time some people see it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPA_HKRHxf4

Its interesting thinking if this is real, if it is the most exciting feature would be the 16 car online lobbies.

P.S. Just cut and paste the link.

This looks crazy awesome, hope it's not a fake!

eurogamer is a known gaming website and the spoken text sounds profisionell. Amd there are too much game scenes to be a fake. The text sounds like its a video presentation for the press only, but looks like somebody gave it to others haha.

Well only time will tell, I still think I will rent it first, the way they handled Forza 3 when it first came out really was sad. Turn 10 ignored all the important questions and gave childish answers, and banned anyone for speaking out against some of its early bugs and flaws.

Still no mention of online tournaments....like in FM2.....that sux. 16 in 1 lobby....can you say lag problems..lol. I still dont see how kinect will work on this game...try holding your arms straight out for 30 minutes....I can see that I will still be using a controller on FM4. I believe it will be a polished up FM3 with kinect....it will still suck!

I'm not buying it, I just finally got everything for this stupid game, and none of the problems with it were truly 100% addressed. They took the tournaments away, and made sure they fixed the money glitch. They also told us the engine glitch was fixed, it was contained for the most part, but still finds its way back every now and again. So f Turn 10! I will wait until maybe next year. So I hope that we still continue the FMC events through FM3 once the new one comes out. I truly feel they made enough money off of me when I purchased the LE of FM3, all of the car and map packs they had on DLC, and now recently the Stig garage which I had to buy another copy of the game to get. Screw turn 10 for a year. That's my 2 pennies.

16 players in an event was available in Fuel by Codemasters before Forza 3 came out, no lag issues there and Blur offers 20 people to a lobby with hardly any lag issues (there are the occaisional ones there but they only result in either cars flying around in the air or glitch moving on the track, they don't take your car out but you do get disconnected from a session on ocaision as well). Will be nice to see if they manage to address any of the things that are major issues in 3, guess we will wait and see. I suppose everyone here will be getting 4 when it comes out so I guess it remains to be seen.

@Bullet - I edited your message so people could watch here without leaving the forum, it is just a smaller view than what you get if you go to YouTube.

Imagine - Sedona Speedway Stock car 16 people..enjoy the crash party!

I hope they dont feature too much on kinect, I would be pissed off if everything is about kinect

first... we said a lot of this when we saw the previews of Forza3 but...

It looks very nice. Car clubs are back which I never thought would happen. Kinect tracking your head movement is pretty sweet... will there be some amalgam that allows use of wheel/pedals and still have the kinect track your dead so you can look into turns and around you... (I won't be sitting on my couch with my arms up in the air... thats for sure) ... there is some potential.

Watched the video last night, it looks nice, but like they always say "Looks can be deceiving." That's kinda funny, they took the thought of looking to the side from Shift. Oh well, that's business for ya. Either way I am still waiting until some time next year to get this game, screw them!

Well, this just looks awesome. Racing clubs, 16 racers, head movement more tracks..........brilliant !!

One copy of that video cant be viewed anymore because of copyright from microsoft - well that's a proof.